Programming languages have always built on top of each other. With agentic coding, is the knowledge of code itself going to disappear? Dave and Dan debate whether software engineers will need to know programming languages in five years, and what harness engineering means for the future.

EP003 - Is Code the Next Abstraction Layer

Dave O'Dell and Dan McAulay work inside engineering organizations every day, helping them ship faster with AI — not in theory, but inside their actual teams. Each week they share what they're seeing in the field: what's working, what isn't, and what most people are getting wrong. Covering Claude Code updates, AI-enabled SDLC acceleration, and personal AI agents. No hype, no BS.

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EP003 - Is Code the Next Abstraction Layer

EP003 - Is Code the Next Abstraction Layer