The story out of the Nevada State Legislature this year is Governor Joe Lombardo's new record of 87 vetoes. Since this podcast started with discussing the 2025 Legislative session, Crystal and Scott turn back to look at what happened and then discuss the increasingly active role of governors in American politics, from standing up to the federal government to becoming one of the most fertile recruiting grounds for presidential candidates. If the 50 states are laboratories of democracy, the governors are now playing lead scientists.