When we reach the 40s, everything we are going through, every change we notice is too often dismissed as "just" menopause. It diminishes our struggles, it belittles our experience and it's blurring our view on other issues that are presenting themselves.

It's not just physical changes, but more internal, deep knowing on a soul level, that things are changing. And while this rite of passage used to be celebrated and honored, now in modern days we brush it off and push aside.

In this interview, we talked about how we should accept, acknowledge, and appreciate this phase, allowing our souls to emerge and shine. Debs explained the astrology and Kundalini aspects of this passage and we both agreed that our bodies are divine creations with innate knowledge and a sense of working perfectly if we allow and support them.