Chapters:

00:00 Intro

01:14 Introducing the guest Joel Pelsue 

02:19 A Christian perspective on the meaning of beauty

05:03 God is true, good, and beautiful 

06:57 The Reformation and enlightenments role in devaluing beauty in arts

08:26 The Catholic thinkers Hans Von Baltazar and Von Hildebrand

09:17 Starting with objective beauty in evangelism

11:57 How classical education led the way to saving Faith for Magnus

14:20 Neglecting a message that speaks to artists and creatives

15:32 C.S. Lewis on the idolatry of the arts

16:06 Giving a tiny foretaste of Heaven

16:46 Overcoming the baggage and becoming encouraged to create

21:21 Where secular artists can get life and inspiration

23.24 How to get help to be a successful artist from www.a-e-m.org