The Pope recently went on the record scolding couples who decide to have pets instead of kids. On this episode of the #StumbleWell podcast, we discuss his statements. Full disclosure, Hallease is not catholic and Mr. Hallease is a "cafeteria catholic" at best. We discuss how Pope Francis' comments can be tied back to different ideas around race, gender, and money. If you've watched a few episodes of the podcast then you know we're comfortably child-free currently so we found Pop Francis' comments interesting but also not surprising. We also discuss the bigger struggles of larger institutions as well. Keep it holy in the comments y'all!

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