David and Doug sit down with Der Vang, an educator, community organizer, and proud Hmong-American. They follow the journey of the Hmong people and their food from southeast Asia to pockets all over the United States. There’s also a deep dive into the importance of having different options for fish sauce, why the kind of asian grocery is critical, and what it’s like when millennial values clash with traditional ways.

Der has been an accomplice for racial and social justice since she was a teen. Now as a university leader, you can find her teaching and speaking at conferences on how to make higher education more equitable for everyone.

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Hosts: David Baeza and Doug Choi Music by Beau Brenton, @beaubrenton