Mohammad Modarres is a TED Resident and Founder of Abe's Eats. But we don't talk about any of that.

Instead, Mohammad talks about all of the other parts that make him a complete human: how persistence is the most beautiful and scariest thing, his response in middle school after 9/11, a man passing out at his volunteer clinic, a VW van, and more.

Visiting psychologist, Dr. Jacquelyn Johnson, specializing in identity and helping women of color find meaning, also calls in to talk about the science behind how we respond when we face hate, racism, and xenophobia.

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