In this episode Shawn Nygaard talks with Thomas Moore, author of the classic New York Times best-selling book Care of the Soul and 30 other books. The conversation touches on numerous subjects, from Thomas' newest book The Eloquence of Silence to his 4-decade-long friendship with James Hillman, and subjects from Hillman's work such as pathologizing, the importance of image and imagination, Senex & Puer, and the difference between spirit and soul.

Thomas Moore's books referenced in this episode:

1. The Eloquence of Silence: Surprising Wisdom in Tales of Emptiness
2. Care of the Soul Twenty-fifth Anniversary Edition: A Guide for Cultivating Depth and Sacredness in Everyday Life
3. The Essential James Hillman: A Blue Fire (edited and with commentary by Moore)
4.  The Planets Within: The Astrological Psychology of Marsilio Ficino