Naomi Kemp, who wears a few hats including a risk manager, expert advisor on enforceable undertakings, speaker and board member of the Safety Institute of Australia. Today we're talking about one stinky risk that many of us wouldn't think that much about, along with a much better smelling alternative to justice, challenging the way we often approach things going wrong. Get my handwritten reflection for this episode, your own reflection template for this very episode, and the full transcript at safetyontap.com/ep076