We're awfully good at burning things up in the name of progress -- coal, oil, gas, Amazon rain forests.  We're not as good at factoring in the real cost of those choices, on our health, and on the health of the planet.

In this first episode of the COAL+ICE podcast, top climate journalists talk about what these choices look like where they live -- in China, South Africa and Brazil -- and what's being done, and needs to be done, to bend the curve on climate change.

Joining host Mary Kay Magistad are:

Ma Tianjie, program director in Beijing of China Dialogue, a non-profit online platform that focuses on the environment and climate change, especially as related to China.  He was previously with Greenpeace, as program director for Mainland China. 

Tunicia Phillips, an award-winning environment, climate and business reporter with South Africa's Mail & Guardian investigative weekly.

 Jon Watts is global environment editor for The Guardian newspaper in the UK.  He's a former correspondent for The Guardian in China, Brazil and Japan, and author of the book "When a BIllion Chinese Jump: How China Will Save Mankind or Destroy It," about the environmental impact of China's rapid development.  Jon is now spending a year in Brazil's Amazon, writing another book.