The past few weeks have been a bit heavy. For this session, Shawny brings on his best friend, Charles Hayes IV, to talk Black Boy Joy and dive into some pop culture. What is Joy? Is it inherently tied to spirituality? Is being a Barb mental illness? Thank you for supporting us and listening for ten episodes. TEN! 10! Double digits! Grateful for you, grateful to be here. Please continue to support by subscribing, sharing, and giving us a 5 star review. 

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