Escape Debt. Experience the World.

In this episode, I sit down with Michelle Hargrave, author of Get Bendy, for an honest conversation about money, travel, and rewriting the rules we were taught to follow.

Michelle and I share our unfiltered journeys—from shame-shrouded debt numbers to becoming debt-free with money in the bank in just a few short years. We talk about what actually worked, what we had to unlearn, and how we educated ourselves to take back control of our lives.

If you’ve ever felt trapped by debt this episode is proof that escape is possible—and practical.