FeaturingMandy Crawford, CIO, State of TexasKevin Gilbertson, CIO, State of MontanaConnect w/ Mandy: LinkedIn, Twitter Connect w/ Kevin: LinkedIn, Twitter Sponsor: The TechTables Live Podcast TourJoin us for these small, intimate live podcast conversations across the U.S.July 22nd in Raleigh, North CarolinaSeptember 23rd in Sacramento, CaliforniaOctober 14th in Tallahassee, FloridaShow Notes:It all comes back to people. AG legal problems wrapped up as people problems (2:40)Leveraging relationship (3:30) - understanding, money people, reaching out to legislative members in their districts, people and money resources - 4:50Digital means process. / business type analytics roles / 6:50 - largest learning about collaboration 7:15 / 8:00 finish upReward with management - and no longer get to do the thing you love (8:40-10:00)Growing relationships 11:35 -Meet with all employees on a rotating basis - where they’re going in five years - not just the agency -15:32-16: pull in the same direction and together - setting inspiring goals / give them an opportunity to say noScaled Agile framework - 17:15 / weight shortest job first - business value divided by the effortMandy - balloon of possibility 18:00 - love that - everything19:20 - burnout21:30 - challengingWhy does it matter to them?What do they care about?23:00-24:00 - opening comments on burnoutCory’s question - 24:35 - Mandy’s response 26:00Rheda’s question - 28:15 responsesJim is inspiring in North Carolina 30:55 - 31:00Vendors take care of your CIOs because we’re talking to each other 33:20      ----------------------Want to dive deeper? Check out my episode on TechTables - https://www.techtables.com/And if you're a CIO or technology leader interested in coming on TechTables, shoot me an email at [email protected] you for supporting Levity Media LLC ❤️, a small business growing private and public sector technology communities through fun and engaging conversations with top technology leaders. Learn more about Joe Toste (me) at https://www.techtables.com/about/See what episodes I'm creating at https://www.techtables.com/ This is a public episode. If you’d like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit techtables.substack.com/subscribe