I sat down with Matt Jess, Premiership winner with Exeter Chiefs, to discuss his journey from grass roots to premiership rugby and how it increased his drive for development.

We spoke about what he learned through his career, how to look after your own body and mind to ensure you can perform week in, week out and keep your name on the back of the shirt. A big part of it is finding the balance between skills, s&c and enjoyment.

It was mental health awareness week when we spoke so we also looked into how this can affect a players and a teams performance and looked at the work he has been doing with next weeks guest Tom from _blOKes.

You can find Matt on Instagram @matthewjess

Host: James Tranter