Michael Foot was the leader of the Labour Party from 1980 until 1983. Though he led the party to one of the worst electoral defeats in its history, he was a brilliant orator, and is still adored by many left-wing Brits today. My guest for this conversation is Neil Kinnock, the man who succeeded Foot as Labour leader in 1983. We discuss Foot's conversion to socialism, the disastrous 1983 election, and Kinnock's indirect role in delivering the US presidency for Joe Biden.