My guest today is not backwards in coming forwards. Sue Bottrell is a unique kind of person in our space, one of the few who has experience spanning in-house safety roles, consulting, and on top of that is a lawyer practicing in OHS law. I think it's helpful for me to give you some background on why and how I say yes to conversations on this podcast. So my starting point, is not being super enthused about the law - it's not unimportant, it's just better placed on someone else's podcast not this one and for an audience like you.