On this episode of "Into the Unknown" What does real self‑work actually look like when no one’s watching? In this deeply honest conversation, Kate Eckman unpacks the difference between talking about growth and truly embodying it. In a world full of self‑proclaimed experts, she shares why she no longer feels the need to convince, explain, or preach and how living her values has become far more powerful than saying a single word.

Together, Kate and host Jeremy Swick explore identity beyond labels, success beyond achievement, and healing beyond hustle. From learning to sit with yourself, to redefining what it means to be successful, to choosing presence over performance, this episode is an invitation to slow down and reconnect with your humanity. If you’ve ever felt disconnected, overwhelmed, or tired of proving yourself, this conversation will remind you what it truly means to be seen, felt, and human.

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