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Razib Khan is Director of Science at Insitome and a genomics consultant. He has worked with Family Tree DNA, National Geographic, and various private clients. An influential scientist and writer in the fields of evolutionary biology and genetics, Razib is a Bangladeshi-American atheist from a Muslim background. He has written for The New York Times, National Review, and India Today, among others, and runs the Gene Expression blog and the Brown Pundits podcast. We talk about a range of fascinating topics—which (TWIST!) leads to an astonishing revelation about Ali's ancestry! Check it out.

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