0:00 Intro

1:52 Decades-Long Rivalry & The Middle East

3:41 Youth & Collective Memory

12:04 Storytelling, the Wider Narrative Story & Local Details that Matter

16:17 Lebanon & the Protest Movement

22:30 Struggle & Initial Targets Following Revolution, Now & Then

29:24 The Way Forward for Lebanon

38:17 "Dancing into the Abyss"

We're with Kim Ghattas for Episode 147 of The Beirut Banyan.

Click to watch:

https://youtu.be/EWPsSWtAtwQ

We discuss her recent book "Black Wave" and the wider struggle between Iran and Saudi Arabia for military dominance, political / economic influence and regime survivability in the Middle East. We also discuss "collective memory" within the Lebanese context, and why the youth matter most when it comes to translating just demands of demonstrators into lasting change.

Purchase “Black Wave” via the following link:

https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250131218

Kim is a non-resident senior fellow at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. She worked as a BBC journalist for two decades, and is the author of "The Secretary" about Hillary Clinton's tenure as US Secretary of State. She also wrote an obituary of Anthony Bourdain for The Atlantic, mentioned in this episode and linked below:

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2018/06/how-lebanon-transformed-anthony-bourdain/562484/

Her BBC World Service piece, "Lebanon: Dancing into the Abyss" that included the aftermath of my father's assassination is accessible via the following link:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p01s60ww

And the BBC Radio 4 piece that includes my WalkBeirut tour with John McCarthy can be heard by clicking here:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01j2bml

Check out Kim's personal website:

https://www.kimghattas.com:

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