From a framer to an MBA. I had a really lovely chat with Ryan about the unexpected life, pivots, and the learnings and growth he has had thus far. Minding you, Ryan is still a young fellow (I know we all are, but he's younger haha). I cannot wait to see where life will take him, or should I say, where he will navigate his life to in the future. In this episode, Ryan has also shared his secret of zoning out, one that a lot of us can relate XD. Special thanks to the executive editor: Matt Bell.