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It’s no surprise that perfectionism takes many artists and creatives out of the game. On today’s episode, the girls walk through a chapter of their book club pick The Artist’s Way, unpacking the art of failure. And guess what? You never really lose so long as you’re actually trying. Also included in this episode: fangirling over Olympic figure skater Alyssa Liu’s child-like wonder and falling in love with an elephant in the Serengeti.