Recorded on-site at the UPCI's General Conference 2025, Tom sits down with Pastor Jerry Staten to capture a raw and hope-filled conversation about recovery, calling, and the unmistakable power of Jesus to transform a life. The episode opens with a day-count moment that immediately sets the tone: Tom shares 1,132 days clean and sober, and Jerry responds with 19,132, reminding us that deliverance does not grow stale when you keep the testimony fresh.

Jerry shares the turning point that changed everything, a moment in a bar where he says Jesus visibly appeared and spoke, “It’s your time.” From there, the conversation moves into his upbringing, his mother’s relentless prayer, a broken home that God ultimately healed, and how that redemption story became a foundation for ministry. Jerry describes his “why” as the joy of watching the lights come on in someone’s life: broken humanity trying to numb pain, then discovering purpose, freedom, and a real relationship with Christ.

As the conversation closes, Jerry makes it plain: doctrine matters, but what saved him first was relationship, an awareness of God that turns into a life rebuilt from the inside out.

What would change in your life if your next step was not just information, but a real encounter with Jesus?