Important correction: the NFL player is JARED Odrick, not James, oh my silly brain… And Wow! What a joy and honor to chat with this momma about our journeys with coming to know and feel the Goddess, and then how we are navigating the infusion of her principles in our lives. We are messy and fun in our style. Don’t expect a formal interview here!! I say “like” way too much in this episode and the audio ends with a smooch sound so I hope you’ll enjoy being invited into our sacred space, the space between.