I speak with the amazing punk poet John Cooper Clarke and pop superstar Rick Astley during a wide-ranging conversation which encompassed the pair's shared Northern roots, experiences of fame, their influences as artists and life in the social media age. I spoke with John before Rick joined the interview for an impromptu chat at the Northern Music Awards!  

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