In our second episode of The COPOut Podcast, Dr. Dana R. Fisher talks with guest experts about the ways that climate shocks and (mal)adaptation are increasing vulnerabilities and inequalities across and within countries.

Tune in to hear from Lisa Schipper from the University of Bonn and Rod Schoonover from Ecological Futures Group as they discuss how climate change overlaps with development and security, the unintended consequences of climate adaptation, and what they expect from COP30.