Sean: When you say that you evaluate them regularly, how often do you evaluate them and how does it look? Is there a Google sheet, a piece of paper that you go through a set of questions that you go through? How does it look?

Jaime: So we don't value it like that. We do it on a daily basis.

So if you're a developer, you will have tasks every morning. No changes every day, 9:00 AM my time. We always get onto a call. That call will be anywhere from 10 minutes to 20 minutes, an ideation of what will be completed today. Task-driven and then at the end of the day what's been done and then has gone on like this for 18 months.

And we're actually outperforming a lot of the metrics that I've seen, even as a CMO in the past, like literally tasks were being cleared out. So we do that on a regular basis. It gives you an idea of how many, once you actually have that, you kind of know what is difficult when someone is not delivering on par to what they could have done.

You go into a conversation, like what was the problem at the end of the day? Like, why didn't this get completed? Why didn't it get completed? Was it because it was just a more difficult task and then you also have monthly planning, which then kind of, okay. Do you sell all the things that we want to do within this month?

You know, we don't need to map it out, but because it is a roadmap that's often mapped out in the one month ahead, then we will know how much time to dedicate on it. And then with every one of my team, I do my two weekly. Two weeks, I would do one sort of session with them, which is one-to-one. And then at the end of the month, and they're the ones who want just to kind of get, you know, not just a job site, but just talk about their aspirations and their life situation.

Because you have to remember, they have, they're probably, you know, going through marriage, having their first child or, you know, going through something in their life that's other than themselves being at work.

So those are the times that you talk about, you know, how things are going, you know, your mom or parents are not feeling well. Have they gotten better? You know, have situations in that home changed? Are they you know, do they see that changing in the next couple of months? So you kind of use that as sensors along the way, and you always know where your team is at at all times.

And, but again, like I said, you know, that's probably doable when you're a much smaller company like us, but when you get to a bigger company, that is something that you have to process.

Sean: [00:05:29] That's leadership. That is something that I think a lot of startup founders miss. They're like, I hired you, you have to be mature. I'm paying you, it's not my job to babysit you. So go to whatever it is, I'm paying you for, right.

It, and they don't meet, they don't talk. It's - a lot of people miss that. I have to admit, I miss that out a lot of years as CEO and I've been doing this a decade now. So that is something that is super important.

I hope you guys listening in here did not miss that, spend time with your team. Do one-on-one. Jamie does it 10 minutes, 15 minutes a day at the start of the day at the end of the day, that is perfect. There might be people listening in who are thinking of starting their own podcasts. And I'm interested in knowing how it works.

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