Sean: Do a lot of people today have the same syndrome - imposter syndrome? What prompted you to throw all that out and start your own thing?

Steve: I actually ended up being originally by force. That was not something I chose and I'll just share that minute. And then the other was by choice. So two different major paths that I had in my life that were majored for deputies and I call them brick upside the head moments. And we've all had those in life, or you just get a brick upside the head from life and you're like, "Oh shit, I wasn't expecting that to happen."

And then you either adjust and you pick up your pieces and you move forward and you create something out of it, or you crumble and you really get diminished. After I was fired, I then went out in 2009 and said, I'm going to start my own real estate company. But it was not the plan two months before, right? It was like, brick upside the head, get fired, go be in a - you know, get hired by somebody else and do this again, or finally do it for myself. So I'm like, okay, let me pick up the pieces, sell everything that I own.

Get rid of the boat, get rid of the extra houses, get rid of the toys, get rid of all the stuff. And at the time it was hard to do that because the market was depleting. So I had to just absorb what I could. And I went out and started a real estate company in February of 2009. And with a year. We had, I had recruited 500 people from Prudential and other companies that I had, you know, six or seven real estate offices.

And we were, we were off to the races in a very downmarket. So that change came because of force. Forced someone else's upon me to make positive change. When I left that five years ago and started out from the advisors, which is what I do now, that was because of a calling. That was because God and a higher power that I call God and the universe had been pulling me to do something beyond what I was doing.

And I call that purpose driven leadership and, I call that spiritual intelligence, and I call that following my instinct and my gut and my own sole purpose. And it was getting out of the ownership role of running just a real estate company as it existed and challenging myself to get in a really uncomfortable place and go do stuff that I didn't exactly know how to do, but I was going to figure out. And that I was going to call on other resources and intellect to repurpose what I knew to help others in a new way.

And thus, that's when I started out from the advisers. Because I said, if I can help run these companies and businesses in real estate, I have to realize business is business, people are people, sales are sales - we all want the same things.

And the human condition of purpose-driven leadership, which is similar to what you're involved in. I realized that was a universal message and not specific to one industry. And that's why within my business, I wanted to consult, coach, speak, and advise other businesses beside just real estate and to knock on wood five years later, I've been able to do that and, and learn tremendous amount from others and give, have given a lot to others.

So it was. It was scary. It was a scary, challenging time to let go of something that I built. Step out into the unknown and take a risk and a challenge into a pond that I had not hadn't been swimming in before.

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