In this episode of Launch, hosts Dave Harvey and Marty Duren are joined by pastor and author Dane Ortlund.  Ortlund is the pastor of Naperville Presbyterian Church, and author of Gentle and Lowly: The Heart of Christ for Sinners and Sufferers (2020), Edwards on the Christian Life: Alive to the Beauty of God (2014), and Defiant Grace: The Surprising Message and Mission of Jesus (2011). He's married to Stacey and they have five kids.