Sean: How did you figure out that what you were supposed to do and what you were called to do, is what you are doing now? And that's teaching others, inspiring other people, writing books, consulting, coaching, right, et cetera.

Steve: I have met many, many wealthy people and many, many rich people and many people that are focused on even moderate wealth. And the materialism is again, one of those things where I said about my company, I was building a certain point.

Is this all there is? I thought it was going to be feel better. And so what happens is we then want the next car, or the red car, or the bigger car. And that's because we all have this hole in our soul. It's part of our human condition. And as human beings, we all have this hole in our soul that we're trying to fill, with not feeling fulfilled enough.

And so we feel that marketing advertising society, the way we fill that hole is more and more and more and more. And so that more and more and more is where we usually have our parents who have given us a trajectory of what's possible, if they believe in us have not, or what we see others doing. So what I had to know is that I always had to have mentors - since I didn't graduate college.

I knew that I had to, if I didn't have generalized knowledge, I knew that I had to have specific knowledge. So I always sought out guides, mentors, advisors, and I was lucky enough that I found out early on that successful people also have egos like I had an ego, they just seem to deserve their ego more because they had the status.

But I found that it's amazing how many successful people are willing to share their journey to share their path if you ask them, you know? And so I started realizing how much people are willing to share. And I got access to a lot of mentors along the way. And then I ended up hiring mentors when I was 26 or 27 is when I hired my first coach.

And I've had a business coach or a life coach every year for 30 years. I've never not had a business coach or a life coach. And that person helped me do kind of like what we're talking about right now every week. You know, the first part is create the plan. What is it you want in your life, in your family and your relationships and your spirituality and your finances? How you serve the community.

So I had to map all that out and tell this other person, these are the things I want. And that person that helped me keep accountable to staying on track to make those things happen. And it's a big, you know, that's a daunting thing to pay somebody to kick your ass. And that's kinda like what I realized it's like when you're in football or, you know, a coach is a pat on the back person, and it's also a kick you in the ass and also show you're made of more than you think you are.

And so for me, having a business coach helped me. See more of what you're asking about. How did I know that? Because I knew was being called to something more. I didn't know what it is and I didn't know how to get there myself. So I had to have guides, mentors, and then from having guides and mentors and then tons of reading and tons of learning and trial and error, one thing just led to another.

And when you realize, "Oh, I can do this. Oh God, maybe I can do that on a bigger scale. Oh God, I can do this." So it just led to one foot in front of the other. And then that increased more of my confidence and more of my faith and power of that.

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