Frances Tagaloa recently gave evidence to the Royal Commission Inquiry about Abuse in Care, which is looking into what happened to children, young people and vulnerable adults in State and faith-based care in Aotearoa New Zealand between the years 1950-99. She experienced sexual and emotional abuse in the early 1970s when she was a primary school student. The abuser was a Marist Brother who taught at the nearby Marist Brothers intermediate school. Aaron spoke to Frances about the changes she wants to see and the journey of healing and forgiveness.