What does it really take for leadership training to stick? In this episode of the Humanergy Leadership Podcast, Jim Marshall explores the deeper dynamics of personal and professional growth - what works, what doesn’t, and why. Drawing on decades of experience, Jim introduces two powerful frameworks: the Four Stages of Competence and the Growth Chain. Through vivid real-world stories (like a training session that didn’t land... until it finally did), Jim unpacks why “aha” moments, repetition, and accountability are essential for lasting transformation. Whether you lead teams, facilitate training, or simply want to build better habits, this episode offers actionable insight for creating real change, not just one-time lessons.

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