In this episode, Nick and Jay sit down with "Sunny", better known as Ehsan Hatem El-Kirdany, Miss Egypt 2007. Sunny shares her unexpected journey from modeling gigs to the pageant stage, where she was crowned on April 23, 2007 in Cairo. Growing up bicultural—half Egyptian, half American—gave her a unique lens to navigate life in Egypt, a country often marked by rigid societal expectations for women.

The conversation dives into the whirlwind of pageant life: from skeptical beginnings to finding herself in the top five, answering questions in English amidst a booing audience, and ultimately winning the crown. Sunny offers a behind-the-scenes glimpse into the Miss Egypt pageant, including sketching during downtime and enduring the surreal moments of standing on stage in heels she couldn’t escape from.

But this episode is about more than tiaras—Sunny reflects on the struggles of fame, the isolation of being in the spotlight, and how she found her footing after leaving the pageant world. From teaching English to immigrants to reconnecting with her core values, Sunny’s story is a heartfelt reminder that true success comes from staying grounded and authentic, no matter how glittery life gets.

Getting some hours in.