So pleased to have Simon (the realist) and Jill (the optimist) join me on this episode of the podcast. Simon and Jill have been working so exceptionally hard for the past few years to build an incredibly creative important virtual textbook that will bring nature into the classroom. The journey has been long and interesting, packed with tons ups and downs and they shared a lot of their journey, their motivations, their creativity on this episode. 

Like I have always said there is no magic behind some of this creative work and doing more cool shit. It is always nice to have an idea of what kind of bungie cords you might have attached while chasing down some wild dreams. 

As always if you need help with a bungie cord you know where to visit. 

Thanks for listening and happy Monday!