Culture is an Inside Job

EP26 - The Score That Really Matters: Ryan Hawk on Truth, Tenacity & Curiosity


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What does it really take to lead with impact? In this episode, Ryan Hawk—former college quarterback, bestselling author, and host of The Learning Leader Show—joins us for a rich, real conversation on the values that shape great leaders from the inside out.

We explore the power of curiosity, the importance of modeling the behavior you hope to see, and why consistency, truth-telling, and doing hard things matter more now than ever. From family legacy to company culture, Ryan opens up about the moments, mindsets, and mentors that have shaped his leadership path—and why culture always starts within.

Whether you're a parent, an executive, or someone navigating your own purpose, this episode will challenge and inspire you to lead with more clarity, intention, and truth.

Chapters:

00:00 — From Dayton Roots to Learning Leader

06:13 — Obsession Over Luck: Building a Life Around What Matters

10:45 — Consistency Modeled: Lessons from Ryan’s Dad

18:39 — Children Imitate More Than They Listen

23:07 — Say What’s True: Psychological Safety and Real Culture

34:54 — The Power of Deep Curiosity

49:27 — Doing What You’re Meant To Do

53:09 — Build What You’re Obsessed With


Connect with Ryan:
https://learningleader.com/

Get Ryan’s latest book, The Score That Matters:
https://learningleader.com/the-score-that-matters/

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