"I know I’m going to get killed one day for doing this." That’s the reality that Omar Essam, a vocal atheist in Egypt, lives with every day. He’s funny, he’s a great sport, and he has a lot to say. And we mean a LOT. We talk about atheists in Egypt, the Muslim Brotherhood, the political landscape since the Arab Spring, and his unconventional views on democracy in the Middle East. We agreed a lot and disagreed a lot, covered a lot, but more than anything, we laughed a lot. And if there’s anything we missed, Ali will probably tell you immediately he’s got a chapter about it in his book. Listen to our conversation.

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