Why do grief and joy often show up at the same time?
How do we hold both emotions without minimizing one or rushing past the other?

In this episode, we explore what it means to sit with grief and joy simultaneously and why real growth happens in the “and,” not in choosing sides.

At some point in life, we all face a universal human truth: hard things and good things often happen at the same time. Disappointment and gratitude. Fear and hope. Exhaustion and love. Instead of trying to fix what we feel, we ask what it looks like to stay present long enough to learn from it.

Together, we talk about:

• Why sitting in the mess builds emotional resilience
• The difference between emotional data and self-judgment
• How performance and self-worth intertwine
• What it costs us to avoid what we’re feeling
• A simple way to separate what we can control from what we can’t
• What your younger self might still need from you

This conversation is honest and unscripted. It’s about being real when life feels heavy. It’s about giving yourself space and grace. It’s about moving through difficulty — not around it.

Because unless we can sit in our own grief and joy, we can’t fully show up for others.
Sometimes, meeting ourselves in the “and” is the most courageous thing we do.

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