It’s a special episode as we talk to Aaron Birch and Grace Newton-Wordsworth (coincidence!?) of Australian indie rock band Joan and the Giants (and secret to this podcast’s professional sound). They tell us about their new songs, new tour, new perspectives, and new cat! It’s all new! (Except the parts that are six months old). Plus, Tara’s worried about threats from space and Matthew’s worried about threats to coffee.

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