Ryan Scrivens, assistant professor in the School of Criminal Justice at Michigan State University, joined host Sandra Borden, the Ethics Center’s director, on April 3, 2025. They talked about his research on terrorism and extremism, as well as the ethical issues involved in working with former extremists to prevent and counter violent extremism. Dr. Scrivens was the 2025 Winnie Veenstra Peace lecturer. Produced and edited by Jayla Bryan.