In the 34th episode of MPods, we sit down with Raj Sarkar, the Chief Marketing Officer of CloudBees and a University of Michigan alum recognized on Forbes’ Entrepreneurial CMO list. From his early days as an engineer and launching innovative products at tech giants like Amazon and Google, to leaving a cushy job for a risky startup and rebounding from failures, he opens up about the psychological rollercoaster of a marketing leader’s journey.We cover scrappy marketing tactics like his “outbound fury” approach to virality, the rise of AI in marketing, and why he believes “culture eats strategy” when building teams. If you’re a student wondering how to launch your career, a marketing enthusiast looking for creative strategies, or a future founder weighing risk vs. stability, this episode is a must-listen. Raj shares insights on learning from failure, telling your story, and building an exciting career!