Grace aka “Semler” recently made history by being the first ever openly queer artist to top the charts of Christian music on iTunes. On this episode Grace and Matt have a great conversation on how the discussion between affirming and unaffirming Christians needs to improve and ways to accomplish that. SUPPORT US: https://linktr.ee/M4Jpodcast--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/m4j/supportSupport the show (https://memesforjesus.supercast.tech/)