Our guest this episode is Jeff Zeilmann, calling in from Missouri. Jeff is the founder and lead investigator of Tracking The Unknown, an independent project focused on structured documentation and analysis of unidentified aerial phenomena. Jeff approaches the subject from an evidence-driven perspective, with a clear separation between observation and interpretation. That framework was put to the test in August 2025, when, during an active investigation, he experienced an encounter with an unidentified aerial object. The event was documented at the time and was followed by acute physiological and cognitive effects that lasted several days, as well as an estimated forty-five minutes of unaccounted-for time.

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