EPISODE 4. In this deeply personal and thought-provoking episode of Skin, Self, and Everything Else, Dr. Ellen Turner sits down with Brandon Mitchell for a vulnerable conversation about sobriety, ego, and the journey toward self-awareness.

Brandon reflects on how his early experience as a manager was driven more by ego than clarity, and how his path to sobriety cracked open a new level of honesty and self-inquiry. Together, they explore what it means to confront the “manager within,” break cycles of self-deception, and start seeing the self beyond the surface.

This is a raw, insightful dialogue about transformation, control, and the inner work required to truly evolve.