“When you have your health, you have everything. When you do not have your health, nothing else matters at all.”

Welcome to episode 4 of Explore Magazine’s Live the Adventure Podcast.

As outdoor enthusiasts, fitness equals fun. The fitter you are, the farther you can hike, the longer you can ski, the higher you can climb.

But then there is the ever-present march of time. We all age, slow down and, eventually stop. Call it entropy.

Today, though, I’m speaking with two fitness experts who look at age as a state of mind. Their names are Josie Boulding and Ryan Stuart. If you read Explore Magazine, you’ll know Ryan’s name—he’s in every issue. Josie writes for us on occasion, and you may know her face—she’s been a fitness model for us a few times.

They’re married. And they’ve recently started a video project called 5for5. The goal is to delve into tips and topics relating to health and longevity, and the mind-body connection.

Josie and Ryan joined me on a call to discuss how we can stay active and healthy as we age—and not be “put out to pasture.”

We also chatted about dubious trends and fads, and how they hope to effectively dissect and examine the barrage of health and wellness info we’re exposed to daily.