In this episode, I speak with Xavier a former Magician now an inside sales rep for a software company.

We talk about his story from starting to learn a few tricks that he can show to his cousins to then a few years later selling out shows in Toronto and performing at bars and clubs.

We then talk about his transition from magic to the software industry and how he took what he learned from the magic scene in communication and dedication to a craft and how he applied it to his new industry.