Co-hosts Ilyana Kadushin & James Harrell pow wow with another fantastic couple, Jamie and Michael Leonhart, who are both professional musicians that have collaborated on music throughout their marriage. We chat about how creativity impacts our relationships, what are the nuances of being creative that we could all cultivate in our relationships and how vulnerability and being present comes into play. Plus special music performances of "Estuary" from Jamie's show "Estuary" and Lythion's "Hussy".