Leading with Curiosity. A Podcast for Modern Leaders.

Ep.45 When I Locked Eyes with the Dalai Lama... Guest Sophie McLean. Wisdom Teacher. Spain


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"So anyway, the planes couldn't fly, so I'm stuck in New Delhi. Right? I'm in the lobby and suddenly the elevator doors open. And who comes out? Is the Dalai Lama!"

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"So anyway, the planes couldn't fly, so I'm stuck in New Delhi. Right? I happened to be stuck in the same hotel in the Dalai Lama, which I didn't know. So I'm in the lobby and suddenly the elevator doors open. And who comes out? Is the Dalai Lama?

So, then there is, I don't know, 15 or 20 people that run to bow and reverse him and greet him and all that.

So I thought, okay, I had just got to spend 2 weeks with him right?I'm not going to be greedy. I went on some steps and I was higher than the people so I could look at him from a higher point. And he left the lobby and on the way out, Nathan.

He suddenly stops, turned towards me with an extraordinary intentionality.And our eyes lock. I don't know how long it lasted because time disappeared, everybody disappeared, everything disappeared...."





  • Nate and Sophie discussed the concept of awakening and sleepwalking, with Sophie explaining that awakening brings intensity and responsibility, while sleepwalking offers a sense of dullness and less vulnerability. Sophie also shared her personal experience of experiencing the flow of creation and how it influenced her decision to move to a place near the Mediterranean Sea. -

  • Nate and Sophie discussed Sophie's book, "Awakening Sleepwalkers," which she wrote to share her 35 years of experience in understanding what it means to be a human being. They also explored the idea of breaking free from personal limitations and the motivation behind taking risks for personal growth and awakening. -

  • Nate and Sophie discuss the importance of using low moments as fuel for personal growth and wisdom. They also emphasize the value of storytelling and the broader experiences in life that contribute to one's wisdom and richness of life. -

  • Sophie and Nate discussed the dangers of advanced technology surpassing humanity and the need for awakening and love in order to prevent a future filled with violence and conflict. Sophie also shared her experience of working with the Dalai Lama and attending a conference on caring and peace. -

  • Sophie and Nate discussed how a profound encounter with the Dalai Lama in New Delhi transformed Sophie's life and deepened her understanding of the power of silence. Sophie shared how this experience influenced her work in teaching others to embrace silence and connect with their inner selves. -



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