After a busy few weeks, Mindi and Kristen are back in the nook talking updates! On this week's episode we chat about Mindi's trip to DC and how she was able to learn from a few Chiefs of Staff about effective advocacy and how to get your message heard. We also talk about Kristen's first experience tuning into a hearing about a puppy store ban and we talk about the negative side effects of both 'sides' filling the room with people who all essentially say the same thing... for 7 hours straight. 

Don't forget to join us for next week's episode, as we continue this conversation but dive into Mindi's trip to visit a breeder with USDA violations who sells to pet stores.