This week on the podcast Cheese sits in the hot seat while Joe flies to New Zealand in a desperate search for Ben Stokes... whilst away he's away Ed and Marty discuss:

- the second test and the 'Nasser' call by Joe Root;

- the state of the England squad and whether there is light amongst the despair and carnage;

- the calls by Smith that gave England a sniff and what that means going forward;

- the weakness(es) in the Australian team and whether a second Marsh will improve the team (spoiler: it almost certainly won't); and

- the state of the play for the two teams heading into the third Ashes test.

Recorded in Clapham, England on 7 December 2017