There is definitely a lot of gasbagging in this episode so apologies in advance!

I tell dad about what it's like working for local government and then we move onto animals and the role they play as a gateway for love in our lives.

Dad also shares his firm views on how to handle men who abuse women, based at least partly on the abuse he saw perpetrated on his mother at the hands of his father.

Link to dad's protest song mentioned in this episode: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6piuSYuTso0

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