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EP5: The Art of the Grown Up Date


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In this episode, Jzabela and Rolando talk about the history of their dates- from boyfriend/girlfriend to 40 something parents of 3 kids. They share their secret hack on getting quality time together and cover how they've adapted to one another's personal growth.

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We Talk About Stuff and ThingsBy Jzabela and Rolando De Paz